Playster Thinks You Shouldn’t Read Gay Romance

UPDATE AT BOTTOM!

Raythe says …

So earlier this week, I got a notice from Draft2Digital, which distributes the Cursed series and other books to a variety of third-party sellers.  One of the new vendors, Playster, has rejected Cursed 1.

I asked why. Apple accepted it and they actually practically READ every book they allow in their store, and have very stringent policies.  Cursed 1 made the cut.

Draft2Digital said all they know is that Playster doesn’t allow “erotica” or “erotic romance.”

Cursed 1 is neither of those. Yes, there’s sexual stuff in it, but NOTHING like what you would expect for those categories. It’s just plain romance.

So I asked Draft2Digital to get more information for me, because it sounded like someone did the gay romance = porn thing on us again. Draft2Digital has not responded yet… probably because they’re fielding other demands about this exact same issue.

We’re not the only ones having our books rejected.

On Kboards, a fellow LBGT author had her f/f work rejected on Playster, yet her far steamier m/f work was accepted.  More people came out of the woodwork to say they had the same experience with their gay versus straight fiction on Playster, and it looked very targeted.

Another person though, came on and said: But wait! There’s gay books on Playster so all you other people who got your books turned down must have done something WRONG!

We’ve heard all these arguments before, especially when our Google ads got rejected for having the word “gay” in them during an A/B test.  We still say:

Uhm, no.

We know how these companies generally work.  This is not RR’s first time at the rodeo.  Playster has more than one person reviewing the material going up on their site.  And because these are people – you know, the beings that aren’t all alike – they all have different interpretations of their TOS.

Some people would look at Playster’s guidelines and apply them as they are written, consistent across the board whether the book is gay or straight.

But others will automatically reject gay romance because they believe that all gay books are porn and, therefore, violate Playster’s TOS.

Another Kboards member suggested: Is is wrong to blame Playster if it’s just a few employees (or maybe more than a few) who inaccurately apply the TOS to gay books?

To that, we say:

A company is its employees.  If you employ people who discriminate on the job, they are representatives of the company.  Their actions are being done on the company’s behalf… especially if it’s not one or two “rogue” agents, but many employees carrying out this biased behavior so much that it becomes a lively discussion on Kboards.

Playster has all the responsibility.  It must train its people not to apply their own prejudices to their work.

If they don’t, and they silently allow it to continue, guess what?  The company is definitely guilty of discrimination, too.

It’s that simple.

We talk a lot about sexual and entertainment positivity.  This is why those discussions have to keep happening. This is why I’m so glad that I founded Raythe Reign and can sell you m/m books and manga at any heat level, and no one is going to stop me.  Control is key.

Playster is not the only offender, just the most recent.  Google, Amazon, and especially B&N, which just got rid of tons of erotica are also guilty.

They will say that it’s because they don’t want to offend their idea of a “typical” vanilla customer.  They all want to appease that “vanilla” customer who they assume will be offended at the existence of gay romance.  They want the rest of us to just go away.

But we’re not going away.  We’re not going to be okay with discrimination.  We’re not going to let them get away with classifying any gay romance as erotica/porn/kink/unnatural, just because it’s gay.  And we’re not going to let them tell us we’re wrong for liking it.

Peace out.

UPDATE

There’s been some movement in a BAD direction, in my opinion. But let me lay it out and then I’ll rant …

So on the Kboards’ post, a representative from Draft2Digital said the following (now remember this is the DISTRIBUTOR not the RETAILER):

Hi everyone,

Jumping in here to let you know we are working on this. I believe this is just a misunderstanding over what is meant by some of the BISAC categories we sent Playster. We have seen such issues before since the BISAC standard is not international and the industry is working on new standards like THEMA to address such issues in the future.  We became aware of the issue on Thursday and we hope to have some news soon.  Please keep in mind that this is a holiday weekend in both the US and Canada.  Problems like these can take a few days to work out and correct.

Thanks,

Dan Wood
Director Author Relations
Draft2Digital

***

Now while this might be the explanation that Playster gave to Draft2Digital, its nonsense.  Cursed 1’s BISAC categories are gay romance, gay fiction, etc. No erotica. Erotica has SEPARATE categories. So the ONLY way you have problems with BISAC categories is if you equate GAY with PORN. Our whole point. So I was hopeful.

Until THIS came from Draft2Digital to me today:

Hello,
In the case of the book that was rejected by Playster, Cursed Broken, there is sexual content throughout the file. They do not allow erotic romance or erotica. I found several very graphic scenes portraying two men together in sexual activity.  Any sexual activity, not just penetrative sex,  is not something they will allow.
This book appears to be to graphic to overturn the decision with Playster, I apologize for the inconvenience.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Best Regards,
Crystal
Draft2Digital
****
Sigh.
Sigh.
(1) Let’s start with the biggest, baddest fallacy in this email to me.  The genre misunderstanding.
First, the romance genre HAS sex in it.  Explicit sex. Lots of sex.  This is expected.  But as a KEY it also has STORY.  The STORY is the main thrust (ahem) of the book. This is Cursed 1.
The erotic romance genre has A LOT MORE SEX IN IT, but also story. The story might be light and thin, but its still there.  I suppose there’s a gray line here between romance and erotic romance, based on personal taste in heat and I’ll discuss that below.  But I’m pretty damned sure erotic romance readers would find Cursed 1 too tame.
Erotica is all about the sex.  If there’s a story it’s so light as to be see thru. People read this for just a good old time and nothing more.
Sweet romance has only kissing and nothing else.
According to Draft2Digital’s email to me, Playster doesn’t accept books with “[a]ny sexual activity” so that means Playster only allows sweet romance, at best.  Because kissing IS sexual activity, but I digress.
Except …
Playster doesn’t just accept sweet romance. It has PLENTY of very sexy M/F books on its site.
So we are still back to the fact that M/F with more than kissing is allowed, but gay romance, no matter what seems to never be tame enough.
(2) Backing Up Prejudice
I really gave Draft2Digital’s credit until I read the second email to me directly.  They apparently skimmed Cursed 1 (or read it avidly, I don’t know) and made their OWN decision about whether they would submit it again to Playster based on a misunderstanding of genre.
More than that, they are ignoring what their own company knows about the content of Playster’s site and the
Yet they won’t even SUBMIT my work again, because they are deciding that since it has ANY SEXUAL ACTIVITY it violates Playster’s TOS.
Except it doesn’t.
What Draft2Digital is doing is putting an even STRICTER interpretation of what’s allowed in that store as compared to Playster. So they are doubling down on the GAY = PORN thing, either being ignorant of what’s in M/F romance is.
If tons of m/f work was being turned down for steam level, I would have accepted this. I would have thought, okay, there’s not a bright line between romance and erotic romance and in Playster’s view Cursed 1 crossed that.
But …
BUT …
The thing is that Playster was never actually judging Cursed 1 by whether it was romance or erotica or erotic romance or sweet romance, Playster barred us because we are GAY ROMANCE.  
And Draft2Digital just said it doesn’t matter …
It DOES matter.

45 Responses to Playster Thinks You Shouldn’t Read Gay Romance

  1. Marilyn Mcbride September 2, 2017 at 11:34 pm #

    I have read mf books that was nothing but sex from start to finish. No world building or character development just straight up “her petals were glistening in the light and my rod needed to pollinate “….*gag* by the way! Yes there are some mm that has a bunch of sex but the character development is always a must in mm romance. The authors I have got to know that write mm feel that the reader needs to get to know their Mc’s, to become invested in them. Which makes the readers keep coming back and spreading the word about new authors and books coming out in this genre. Honestly not giving this genre a chance makes me sad for them because they are missing out on some very well written, fantastic books available and authors that deserve to be noticed as much as(if not more than)Nora Roberts, James Patterson etc.

    • admin September 3, 2017 at 2:23 am #

      Of course! There is erotica in m/f and m/m! But there is romance, too, which isn’t erotica. The problem comes when a reviewer sees a book that says “gay romance” and immediately conjures the sexual act between two guys or two girls and that is, in some minds, porn!

      D2D is saying its something to do with BISAC categories (what you categorize your book in generally that is the problem). Uhm, well Cursed is in Fiction/Gay and Fiction/Gay/Romance, etc. Yeah, again that doesn’t explain the erotica categorization, because it’s still just Gay Romance!

      • Ronni H. September 8, 2017 at 4:15 pm #

        I love reading romance because it’s not just sex! It’s a story with learning & development that you can go through with characters just like any good book does! I read all types of romance novels except the erotica because like I said I am there for the story foremost. You don’t really get that with erotica. The sex scenes in romance novels are just a bonus! 🙂

        😡SHAME on playster! They at least could of been honest with there reason, but they just we’re shady! They think we’re all some weirdos for being in love with love in any way you want to tell the story. Shame on them & oh well forget them! Thanks for putting out your own website for all of us.

    • Kat September 3, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

      Wait, really? Pollinate? OMG, lolololololololololllllll.

  2. GodofPainBelial September 2, 2017 at 11:47 pm #

    Preach!

    • admin September 3, 2017 at 2:24 am #

      I felt a little like that! I’m on my bully pulpet and asking for an Amen!

      • GodofPainBelial September 5, 2017 at 12:26 am #

        Amen! This really upsets me. I’m so glad you guys are in the thick of this battle of bigotry and fighting for gay romance victory. Honestly, I almost wish you guys had a m/f story with the same amount of steam to give D2D to go to Playster. And then see if they accept it. What I’d do is literally rename Cursed 1 to something completely different and only just change it to be m/f, and nothing more. Submit that to D2D for Playster, and if they accept it, let them know that now you have actual proof of their bigotry. Then leave the ball in their court to either correct the problem, or worse case, take them to court. If changing Cursed 1 as your “test” is not possible, at least submit a m/f story that’s completely different, but it’s sex scenes are lifted directly from Cursed 1 tailored to m/f. And if they accept it, maybe do as I said above. I love to see worms try to get off their hook. So I have no idea if this is something you guys are willing to do or can do, but food for thought.

  3. Byzantene September 3, 2017 at 12:22 am #

    Hi, I just wanted to say THANK YOU to everyone that makes the Raythe Reign site possible and for writing this post about the unfair discrimination against gay fiction. As an avid fan of romance novels, especially m/m, RR is a breath of fresh air in a world that forces people to fit into boxes and imposes limits on content that doesn’t meet their “standards of quality”. Not only has the site always been a haven for rich stories and the readers who love them, but its articles like these that take it a step further and look to nurture a bright future for everyone as well as the community as a whole…

    To that end, I am so grateful to the RR staff for always working hard and speaking up on issues that are important. Thanks again for all that you do, and for my part, the site will always have my support. RR is like a home to me, and I stand by you as an advocate for love in all its shapes and forms.

    • admin September 3, 2017 at 2:27 am #

      You’re welcome! But we couldn’t do this without you!

      We think of ourselves as entertainment positive, meaning that you shouldn’t be shamed for what you enjoy. Too long has romance, in general, and gay romance, in particular, been treated as some kind of haven for the freaks, geeks and losers out there. Romance is the LARGEST seller of all types of books yet still it doesn’t get respect. Any retailer who would be so foolish as to categorize gay romance as erotica, doesn’t understand the readers they are selling to. A reader would know the difference between gay romance and gay erotica. It looks like Playster may not know that there is any difference at all …

      • Kat September 3, 2017 at 3:28 pm #

        “Romance is the LARGEST seller of all types of books yet still it doesn’t get respect. ”

        You know my thoughts on this – it’s in part because it’s seen as a women’s domain, and anything “for women” loses status points with the general market. Then again, some of those women are crying all the way to the bank, so.

  4. a_h- September 3, 2017 at 12:49 am #

    This makes me so sad and angry. For the first 30 years of my life if I wanted to read good gay romance I had to write it myself and now I’m finding that its OUT (har) there but I can’t FIND them to GIVE them my $$$ because we are all censored!!!!! >:((((((

  5. admin September 3, 2017 at 2:30 am #

    I know how you feel. It’s like before when we had NO WHERE to find m/m except as fanfiction and our own original writing it was almost EASIER to accept. Because the prejudice was plain to see and we weren’t feeling gaslighted.

    Now that retailers are sort of, kind of letting us in the door, it makes this kind of stuff worse. Because we wonder: is this really still happening? Are people right to say we’re being sensitive? Is this really happening because gay = porn in many eyes?

    It’s more subtle so its harder to fight. But we’ve seen enough of it to know. I’d be happy to learn this is some kind of mess up on Playster’s part and that it DOES have to do with Bisac categories or whatever. But until I called D2D (and I believe I got this ball rolling), this was just going to keep happening.

    So we shall see.

    • a_h- September 4, 2017 at 11:35 pm #

      Do they sell the Game of Thrones (aka America’s favorite graphic glorification of rape incest and torture) books? Freaking hypocrites, all of them.

      • admin September 5, 2017 at 1:31 am #

        It’s DIFFERENT when its trad … plus they would claim that the incest wasn’t to tittillate (my ass it isn’t).

        • a_h- September 5, 2017 at 4:13 am #

          /beats head against wall to stop those pesky logic cells
          Oh yes it all makes sense now that I have a concussion
          How about JON SNOW’S BARE, GLEAMING ASS WHILE MOUNTING HIS AUNT not to tittilate? Cersei getting it doggy style from her brother “but not to tittilate”? Buckets of bullshit!! And you know what, IDGAF if that gets you off as a fantasy, but the double standard is infuriating.

  6. jajohn September 3, 2017 at 3:35 am #

    I think it’s bogus, especially the discrimination issue. They are being the stupid ones. People are gonna read what interests them. Me? I read all kinds of romance. I don’t discriminate. If a story catches my eye and more importantly, my imagination with its story and plot, I couldn’t care less if it was f/m, f/f, m/m, or incest. I read romance for the world and adventure in every story. Playster needs to realize they may have their policies and opinions on which novels they think would sell, but to not sell something without getting customer ratings? That’s just stupid. I love, love, love the stories and novels that raythe writes and the worlds and adventures that are created. I say that those who run Playster need to get their egos checked and let the people/customers decide what they wish to read.

    • admin September 3, 2017 at 3:58 am #

      Amazon’s charts would be FLOODED with erotica if they didn’t keep it hidden. Same thing at B&N, et al. People LOVE their smut. So Playster is a fool NOT to have it on there if we go by their TOS.

      But to keep gay romance off because it’s gay? That’s yet ANOTHER limiting factor in their plans. Plus, honestly, this moralizing by these companies is tiresome.

      Who are you to tell me what I like is abnormal and you won’t sell it? Aren’t you in this for the MONEY? Or is it the moral judgment? I just don’t know.

  7. Kim Vesely September 3, 2017 at 3:50 am #

    These stories are incredible! I feel more drawn emotionality to these characters than any of the previous books I read! I stopped reading along time ago because of predicting obvious outcome! Found this by accident. Gone through everything with a passion! Quit TV. Games. Finally sparked imagination. I am an artist that lost interest because of consecutive tragic misfortunes. Gave up on everything. My spark came back! Started taking on new jobs. Thank you for that!

    • admin September 3, 2017 at 4:07 pm #

      Thank you for your support and so glad you’re inspired again.

  8. camcc0501 September 3, 2017 at 6:23 am #

    Loud Chapping in this corner of the world. If “Vanilla Sex” people like “Fifty Shades of Gray” why can’t we have our gay romance?

    Most M/F romances now a days are as race or racer than said book. Just because it’s M/M or F/F don’t mean squat. Shot if they have to they could use that imagination of theirs and make believe that one of the characters is Female.

    • admin September 3, 2017 at 3:09 pm #

      The thing is that this vanilla customer really doesn’t exist. That’s the irony. All of us have our desires that another person will fine objectionable. Every single one. Some people and some companies though only want to allow certain of those to exist.

      FsOG broke through because it got so popular that banning it would have been impossible. Plus the hook of the dirty Twilight was too much for the media to resist. But remember that readers of that book are still looked down upon.

      It’s frustrating. Beyond frustrating really. But there it is.

      • Kat September 3, 2017 at 3:31 pm #

        50 Shades saved B&N’s ass.

        Let us pray that all corporations are, at their innermost heart, mercenary amoral bastards n bitches and will do what sells, which is romance of all kinds.

        We must do our part to visibly be successful and loudly proclaim that we make money – even more BioWare than BioWare, you know?

  9. Romy September 3, 2017 at 3:45 pm #

    So for me is it simpel. Tey don’t get any money from me. I read what I want. And they loos a customer. So go on with your work. I enyoy it anyway

    • admin September 3, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

      Why it ticks me off is not because I care about Playster. I didn’t even know it existed before I got that email. What angers me is the hypocrisy and hiding behind a lie. You don’t want LGBT on Playster? Fine. But tell us that. You don’t get to hide behind “erotica” which is ludicrous, too, as that sells extremely well. But if they want to leave money on the table fine, too.

  10. Elise September 3, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

    Seriously? What year is this? Some people. Just be professional, not prejudiced. A good book/story is good no matter the content. Who cares, as long as it sells? Right? And it WILL sell.

    • admin September 3, 2017 at 4:11 pm #

      That’s just it. The discrimination HASN’T gone away. it’s just gone underground. It makes it harder to deal with. And they’re “hiding” or their system is broken. I guess we will find out.

  11. darket September 3, 2017 at 5:25 pm #

    My first reaction about Playster and all the other book sellers was the same as what Elise said above. What country are these people from? They won’t look beyond their own prejudice to see most gay romances are thrilling adventures, mysteries or dang good detective stories.

    Gay books are no different than any other of the books out there with m/f romance. I feel book sellers should be objective and cater to the people wants, not from their own bias attitudes. Plus they’re losing an incredible amount money. I thought that was the intent for most business.

    • admin September 3, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

      You would think that money would move these sites, but somehow it doesn’t. Maybe they don’t really know their readers (or any readers) to realize just how popular romance/erotica/etc. is whether gay or straight. But companies somehow believe that this market is just not worthy of being served, see Kat’s comment above.

      • Meg September 4, 2017 at 9:22 am #

        Hmm, considering money isn’t moving them I’m going to assume it’s because they’re worried about image more then moral issues. After all it wouldn’t do for people to stop coming to their site or complaining and making a big social media fuss because they notice some books that are ‘morally questionable’. It’s like FanFiction’s gay scare all over again when they started threatening to erase gay and morally questionable stories as well as possiably anything really mature because ‘oh no what if a kid reads this!?’ Never mind that everything is rated and gay fiction has been on here for years. Thank goodness for Archive Of Our Own giving people a safe alternate fanfiction site and/or archive/backup place.

        Also in regards to the article, I like your point about individuals refusing stuff they don’t like due to gay, moral issues etc. Never really considered it from that angle before. Also love how you raise awareness and show how these things work because otherwise I’ve have no idea what was going on, granted I gave up on printed books in favor of fanfiction/AO3 long ago but it’s still interesting to read what’s happening in the world. 🙂 Although I admit the move was originally more to do with reading everything interesting in the library then anything else then I just never left because the range of material is just so open and vast on fan fiction sites.

        Also in regards to the note above about gay stories having depth totally get your point I think one of the main reasons I switched to male gay romance originally was because I got fed up with lovey doveyness and gushing over love at first sight and how pretty he looks, ugh spare me, yes some gay stories still do that and some m/f stories have depth but generally as previously mentioned having story depth is almost a must in m/m stories, even in one-shots there is generally at least a little story depth.

        • admin September 4, 2017 at 6:10 pm #

          Fanfiction.net is STILL a “cesspool” of sexy stories. I put my Luke x Vader incest on there and that was TAME and that was AFTER the purge.

          We do want to raise awareness. When people think a mountain has been climbed (gay fiction is now on Amazon) they don’t realize that there’s still more mountains out there. It becomes harder to see that there’s lots more discrimination to overcome.

  12. River Iris September 4, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

    Even if you look at this from a purely economic level (and I’m not saying you should only, but if you did) the company was not based on any religious cultural or theme that might block a specific type of material from the get go? No? Then it’s bad for business but perhaps good for publicity (if they can turn this around and put a good spin on why). If they re-train the employees and apologize would that make them a revised company with more people looking their way? Probably not, but as the adage goes ‘all news is good news’ (I’d add ‘if that news can be used’). In a free economy, this should never need to happen. My local grocery store sells porn magazines out in the open for goodness sakes! They should politely (because there is too much negativity in the world as it is to not be polite) ask these employees to either change how they review stories for the boon of the company or choose a different place of employment.

    • admin September 4, 2017 at 6:07 pm #

      As a business, I know I run mine on, first, reputation – what do I want RR to stand for? and second, money. Simply put I can’t pay my people or myself if I’m not aware of how number 1 affects number 2.

      Despite what I hope are the last convulsions of terrible prejudice going through the US right now, I truly believe that acceptance of gay people is here to stay. That they have been “normalized”. The companies are doing this in terms of benefits, but entertainment is still … well, behind, weirdly and books of all things seem most feared.

      Take Amazon for instance. It sells porn videos. Out right porn. But a yaoi manga? They won’t sell it if it has sex in it (hence while DE 6 is not on Amazon). They also hugely police erotica from getting too high in the charts. They also adult dungeon books. They sell outright porn, but if its in book form it’s like it has more power than video. I should be flattered by that to think that Amazon believes that as a writer I have more power over people’s minds and sensibilities than video pornography!

      For sheer monetary reasons, Playster should have gay romance on the site, but also for reputation reasons. Do they really think they’ll gain more customers by doing this or lose them?

  13. Vera September 4, 2017 at 3:40 pm #

    ” They want the rest of us to just go away.

    But we’re not going away. ”

    Actually, I think we should. Not to say that we should take it silently, but we should take our money and interest and spend it on sites like Raythe Reign. If they are not interested in selling books that I like they are not worthy of my attention, even if they do have other books I’d read.

    • admin September 4, 2017 at 6:00 pm #

      Definitely do NOT give them your money unless they change. It’s “fine” that they don’t want to sell gay romance. But it’s more than “fine” that I won’t purchase from them and I’ll encourage everyone else not to either.

      While I really think its ridiculous not to sell erotica or erotic romance, don’t hide behind that if you don’t want to sell gay romance. Admit it! Get that prejudiced crowd! Own your bigotry! Sigh. Except they don’t want to be seen as what they really are which is prejudiced because I truly believe (despite Trump and all the rest) that there are MORE tolerant people than intolerant. I continue to hope this.

  14. Marilyn Mcbride September 4, 2017 at 10:11 pm #

    I would honestly like to see their response to an mf romance with the same amount of sex as Cursed. Seeing how long I have read romance..heck I was reading full fledged romance novels at age 9, with my parents okay. ( yup, the sex was graphic and in almost every chapter. ) For many readers sex is a given in romance books. No matter if it’s mf or mm. But seriously, mm sex, is hotter to read about. To me it’s not porn( I can watch vids or go on Tumblr for that lmao) it’s about furthering the storyline, building on the Mc’s life together not just for sex. But for them to name Cursed as erotica is a bit ignorant on their part. It’s almost as though they didn’t actually read it all the way through.

    • Raythe September 4, 2017 at 11:02 pm #

      It appears to me that their response is to post it.

      I get it that romance and erotic romance is a finer line than maybe I see it, but I know that’s not why Playster rejected the book.

      What got me is that so Crystal reads the book and QUOTES me some passages from it to show me why it can’t possibly be romance and I’m like I didn’t forget what I wrote. But I still disagree with you.

      But FINE.

      However, that is NOT the reason that Playster rejected the book. They didn’t read it at all. They say the Gay BISAC category and automatically ruled it out.

      It makes me sad and angry.

      And I’m with you that I read Harlequins when I was a little kid and they were all sorts of explicit sex, but no one stopped me from buying armfuls of them at the bookstore when I was in my tweens!

  15. Fara September 4, 2017 at 10:21 pm #

    I kind of figured that line between romance and erotica is whether you’d have anything to read left if you skipped the sex scenes, not how steamy those scenes might be. Gods know my mother has read a romance novel a night for decades, and I translated 8 of them in Japan, so I KNOW that m/f “vanilla” romance has sex in it. Hell, Nora Roberts mainstreamed her books by turning her romance novels into mysteries and giving herself a male-passing name on the jacket. They didn’t have one jot less sex in them.

    If they want to argue a gay romance has crossed the line, they can read a redacted version where all the sex scenes fade to (literal) black instead – still got a plot you can actually read? It’s romance. And just about everything on RR would pass that test. If they want a different definition of romance, then they need to be absolutely clear on that, and apply it to *all* romance, not just m/m. This goes for Amazon, too (though I don’t buy books there at all and never really did, ironically).

    • Raythe September 4, 2017 at 11:04 pm #

      Thank you! I started feeling like I was going crazy when D2D told me that erotica or erotic romance was anything above KISSING! I’m like: no, I’m pretty damned sure that’s not true. But then I wondered am I wrong in this? But no, I’m not. What you’ve said makes so much sense.

  16. A. M. Tanti September 5, 2017 at 2:00 am #

    I just logged into my D2D account, huh, I have 2 short books that are PURE GHOST PORN m/f and guess what, they are allowed and published in Playster. Enough said? I self publish my shorts and pure porn in one pen name,Kira Taylor and have a publisher for my Erotic Romance m/m stuff, T. K. Benjamin ( my other pen name) D2D and Playster have some questions to answer I think.

    • admin September 5, 2017 at 3:23 am #

      I think any attempts to really “police” what’s on sites like this is pointless. They miss plenty of stuff or allow stuff in, ban other stuff, but not all of it. It becomes a mess and that’s what’s happened here.

      Even though your Kira stuff was taken down, I’m sure plenty of other stuff is still there. Sorry about the take down there. But how many people are they selling to if they’re kicking out all the good stuff? 🙂

  17. A. M. Tanti September 5, 2017 at 2:11 am #

    Two minutes after writing the previous post I checked my d2d account again and the playster button is muted on my Kira Taylor pen name. Maybe my eyesight was bad before? Lol. Maybe…

  18. Kristy Williams September 5, 2017 at 9:59 am #

    I would never consider your books as erotica. Your worlds are rich and well developed. Your main characters are very well developed and thought out. You fall in love and become very invested in these characters lives. Sure there’s sex in the books but that enhances the stories. without all this the sex would be pointless and nowhere near as exciting! Thank you for all you have done. I truly love your stories!

    • admin September 5, 2017 at 8:46 pm #

      Thank you! There’s nothing wrong with erotica, but the difference to the READERS are obvious. Strip out the sex as was suggested above and there’s a story there then its romance. Strip out the story and there isn’t much left then its erotica.

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  19. Someone September 9, 2017 at 1:38 am #

    LMFAO, this is so freaking stupid! Erotica is literally nothing but sex. It’s kind of like a quick make-up fight then sex throughout the whole book. I have bought and read the Cursed series so I definitely know that there is no super heavy sex in the first book. Plus, it focuses more on the plot so obviously, they didn’t really “read” it. I think they purposely tried to find those moments (like any you would find in a Gay Romance) and claim it as Erotica! Honestly, if any site is policing what you sell and then gives a bullshit statement then I don’t think they deserve to have your stuff on their site. People are diversified. A lot of people I know are getting into Gay Romance, I think it’s actually becoming more popular so I think they have made a really dumb decision. Plus, can’t you sell your stuff somewhere else (no insult to you. I just want your books to be appreciated as Gay Romance or not by the company that helps selling your stuff)? Your books are gorgeous and have the perfect mix between relatable characters we can get attached too, plot, and amazing worlds. ^^ Gay Romance or not it’s still romance. But anyway, enough with me rambling and I hope you find a way through the bigotry that’s going on as well as keep selling your stories. The worlds missing out on them! ^^

  20. Maria Lazarou September 11, 2017 at 1:06 pm #

    I wonder how much of an ASSHOLES are they;m/m, f/f ,f/m,plain romance, erotica,just semantics.Racism that’s the problem, unfortunately.Literature should not have limits,a book is an escape, another world,a fantasy and no one has the right to put limits on what kind of books we should read.I hope it’s just a misunderstanding,besides every member in your site who pays for your books loves to read them because of the theme, DARK, GAY , BLOODY, INCEST and absolutely HORNY aka EROTICA.(ah yes it’s a porn i forgot tsking my mistake).

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