Can Anyone Do Better?

Raythe says …

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A little bit of romance, which was good!

Can Anyone Do Better?

That was actually the title of a review someone wrote of yet another gay vampire movie I subjected myself to called Vampires: Brighter in Darkness (and if the title doesn’t cause you to go: wha? when they fight the giant scorpions with their hands you’ll really start to wonder.

No, I’m not kidding.  Scorpions. Hands. And they hiss a lot like cats …)

Kat’s already told you about our watch-a-thon of Vampire Boys and its terrible sequel (we literally had to stop watching because it was so painful), but, hope springs eternal for me, I keep looking for something better.

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Oh, kiss me, Brad!

I LOVE VAMPIRES (not a surprise).  And I’ve been waiting desperately for a GOOD full-out gay vampire movie/series since I read Interview with a Vampire and watched for every flicker of homoeroticism in the movie version between Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise.

The thing is, I don’t think I’m alone. I’m actually POSITIVE I’m not alone in being willing to pay good money to watch/own/repeatedly go to the theatre for a GOOD gay vampire movie.  Alas, I am still waiting (though at least V:BID actually TRIED to put romance in it, which is the essence of a good vampire story, while VB had me watching through my fingers it was so bad).

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Sean and Dane on the big screen? Oh, yes!

When I was contacted by a real, surprisingly big name producer for an option on The Artifact (now called The Bodyguard) I was seriously flattered and doing a happy dance, of course. Who wouldn’t be? This was before I learned how rare it was for options to be actually exercised. But I digress …

After my initial thrill, then I thought about the bad production values of most gay movies.  And then I thought: would they even keep it gay? Because I’d been conditioned to think of the stuff I like (and write of course) as fringe, strange, etc. even when all of you prove its not.

When I researched the hell out of options, movie making and the rest, I discovered that the writer is the LAST person to have control of the movie version.  And that bothered me even more.  If a movie of The Bodyguard was made, what if it was as low quality, poorly acted, poorly adapted, and cringeworthy as the gay movies I’d seen?

I’d totally be embarrassing myself, devaluing the work, and disappointing the fans even though I would have had no control over it.

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We’re just doing edits and this baby is in the can!

Raythe Reign allows us to do bigger projects like the manga, the audiobooks, the art, etc.  It’s put a lot of people to work doing what they love. But I have this dream of it doing far more.

I want to be able to answer the person who titled their review: Can Anyone Do Better?  And answer them: YES, WE CAN, because Raythe Reign members helped make us into a true multi-media company that makes topnotch stories in all mediums, including film.

It might be a completely crazy dream to think we could make a movie, but Raythe Reign was a completely crazy dream when I first started it.

So can you guys recommend any GOOD gay movies (paranormal, please, I am so not a contemporary romance fan)?  And tell me what you think makes movie sex HOT and… not cringeworthy. Because if we do this thing, we’re going for the gold.

36 Responses to Can Anyone Do Better?

  1. Samantha August 19, 2016 at 10:21 pm #

    I don’t know any films that I haven’t stopped watching because they were poorly made. But if Raythe made any of the stories in to films and they were made well I would totally buy them.

    • Raythe August 20, 2016 at 3:46 am #

      I’ve only had a very few. Netflix and Prime let you watch things you would never do otherwise.

  2. maria knight August 19, 2016 at 11:07 pm #

    Hell yes!!!!

    • Raythe August 20, 2016 at 3:46 am #

      We’ll see!

  3. Erinys August 19, 2016 at 11:58 pm #

    Raythe can do better, I already knew that.

    -Erinys

    • Raythe August 20, 2016 at 3:47 am #

      I know NOTHING about film production. So it would be about money and hiring the right people while maintaining control.

  4. Methusleah1 August 20, 2016 at 2:07 am #

    Have you looked into anime/yaoi films or OVA’s ? Ai no Kusabi is really good (although it’s sci-fi, not supernatural) and I liked Sex Pistols but it’s incomplete so far. There aren’t a ton of supernatural gay stories out there that aren’t porn parodies, but the good series tend to get huge followings on the net. I recently watched “My boyfriend is a Merman” and it made me cry. It was beautiful, and bittersweet with a happy ending.
    I think that what makes a good gay film, regardless of genre, are the same things that make a straight film good. Strong (as in dynamic and well rounded, not necessarily physical strength) diverse characters with a well connected, interesting plot, beautiful cinematography (no shaky cam and no weird shamylan angles) and believable effects. (CGI is over used. It should only enhance practical effects or they need to learn how to blend it better with the real world if it’s gonna be a live action movie.) If it is based on a book, it should follow as closely as possible, but show things as opposed to putting them into dialogue or forcing the narrator to say them. Some soliloquies are okay but they shouldn’t happen throughout the movie, and we should only hear the characters inner dialogue when crucial to the plot. I watch a lot of film critics on YouTube so that is where I’m getting a lot of this information.

    • Raythe August 20, 2016 at 3:48 am #

      I really am not into Ai no Kusabi, but I know people are crazy about it. There really aren’t a ton out there. While I agree with you that certain things make good movies, good romance is rarely captured (and certainly not in gay vampire films yet).

  5. Evilcleo August 20, 2016 at 2:47 am #

    I didn’t even know they were gay vampire films. Plenty of gay vampire books but films are rare. I feel the US is barely accepting LGBT characters in tv series and if there are, they aren’t central characters although the fosters and one HBO/Starz show are exemptions. Films are the next step but something tells me releasing gay vampire films will be followed by very little time for airing the previews/marketing and lots of “The movie is horrible – it’s a gay romance” reviews. Just like that recent erotica movie where so many people say they hated it, only to reveal they don’t like S&M. Well, duh- you’re not the target audience and the previews revealed that it was S&M so why did you watch it to begin with?

    Will have to watch the sequel on youtube though. It might be horrible as you say but I’ve got to see what you’re talking about.

    • Raythe August 20, 2016 at 3:50 am #

      Oh believe me if you watch the films I’m talking about you’ll be cringing!

  6. Kat August 20, 2016 at 5:01 am #

    Drinking. Game. That is all.

  7. Vicki August 20, 2016 at 6:25 am #

    Have you heard of Uragiri wa boku no namae/ the betrayal knows my name? It is another anime that is worth checking out. It is not gay per say but there are alot of homoerotic airs interspersed through it. For the main character had been a woman in his past life. Also he has a protector who also happens to have been his lover from that time though he is not aware of it on a conscious level. There are also lots of intetesting paranormal elements scattered throughout it, but alas no vampires. Still I would highly recommend it. It used to be found on crunchyroll.com and now I think that it still can be found on youtube.

  8. keith August 20, 2016 at 7:01 am #

    I also didn’t know that film with gay vampires existed! 😮 Now I want to watch them — but you’re saying they’re bad… so I’ll keep an eye on the messages here to see what movies are recommended by others.

    It’s AWESOME that you were contacted by a producer!! But I understand you dilemma. Movies are very often bad adaptations of the books. And I wouldn’t even be able to tell what makes a movies good or bad… It’s a risk, and it’s up to you to take it or not.

    All I’ll say is, I won’t think any less of the book if someone makes a bad movie with it. I’d be disappointed, sure, and sad for you (and for Dane and Sean). But I will still love the book, and I wouldn’t hold you responsible for the bad quality of the movie. It would just be something tried and failed, and an interesting experience I’m sure whatever happens.
    And if the movie is actually good, well… then it’s super awesome fantastic magic like a dream come true!

  9. FaereMage August 20, 2016 at 8:01 am #

    😁 I would totally watch/spend money on a movie/video if you guys made one. Just be careful that you don’t lose your “voice” in the process.

    There is a great book that I read when I was younger, maybe high school age, called “Blood and Chocolate”. It’s an original story about a young girl who loses her father (their alpha) in a fire. Not only does she have to deal with this loss but with the drama of being a teenage girl in a new town who just so happens to secretly be a werewolf and all the pack drama that comes with trying to find a new alpha.

    Years later I saw a promo for a movie with the same name based on the book. Never had the time to see in the theater but much later found a DVD copy of it in a bargain bin at Wal-Mart. Just $9.99. Bought it, watched it, hated it.

    The book was so awesome and amazing but the movie very awful. It’s loosely based on the book. So loosely based as to only have the same character’s names, the werewolf theme and a general idea of the plot.

    If you do a search on Amazon for the movie (something I should have done before wasting $10) and read the reviews you can find out about how horrible it is to true fans of the story.

    Everything is different. The book characters are teenagers becoming young adults. In the movie they are in their 20’s to 30’s. the movie is set in Europe, book setting is in an American High School on the east coast. In the movie the good guy from the book is the bad guy. And vice versa the villain from the book is a “good” person in the movie. One of the main characters from the book is killed off before the movie even begins. Most likely to help explain the main character’s living situation. Even the type of werewolf and the way they transform is different in the movie than in the book.😠

    I had seen that The author had an apology written on her website in response to fans complaining about the movie that she had no control at all over the movie plot/storyline. She wrote something like “apparently if you’re not famous like Anne Rice, Hollywood won’t listen to you at all.” I think she was just pay for the use of her name which was probably to attract fans of her work to see the movie since she had won the 1998 YALSA Award for Best Books for Young Adults.

    I’ll stop ranting now.😣

    • keith August 20, 2016 at 11:19 am #

      Wow that’s pretty depressing >< Why do they even bother saying it's from a book and using the names of the characters, if all the rest is nothing like the book….

  10. keith August 20, 2016 at 12:52 pm #

    In TV shows though, I found some very good series with gay romance. In Sense8, two of the main characters are in a gay/lesbian relationship. There are 8 main characters so it’s not like the story is centered solely on them — but still. There is romance and fluff and sex and all <3 (including the best telepathic sex orgy ever in TV).
    The series is awesome and I loooove those two couples! And it's sci-fi, there isn't vampires and monsters and stuff, but they're sort of telepaths.

    And I love the lesbian couple in Orphan Black too. It's not with THE main character, but with one of the main characters, and her romance is quite developed and well done.

    • ImmortalK August 21, 2016 at 11:11 pm #

      I loved Sense8 too. Yeah no vampires but enough plot and intrigue to keep you on the edge. The orgy scene… gave me heart palpations it was so good. There is a smexy gay scene, between two guys, with a girl watching. Something more may come from that unique friendship haha.

  11. Ipodpixie August 20, 2016 at 2:01 pm #

    I get what you’re saying about great books being murdered after they have been made into movies.
    One of my favourites is queen of the damned but I made the grave mistake of watching the film. It was so bad and so far from the actual book that I vowed to myself that I would never watch a film based on a book I loved again!

    • FaereMage August 21, 2016 at 8:17 pm #

      Yeah, I agree.

      That movie made me so sad. They completely removed one of the main characters. He wasn’t even mentioned.

      Apparently Hollywood was uncomfortable with the emotional reunion of two attractive males.

      Plus it would have interfered with the “straight” relationship that they were pushing in the movie.

  12. River Iris August 20, 2016 at 9:09 pm #

    Unfortunately, I don’t go out of my way for erotic movies/tv shows. I’m watching ‘Downton Abby’ and they have the most believable gay character possibly ever. The show’s not perfect, and trigger warnings abound for many characters, but it makes me smile more often than not.

    ‘Interview with the Vampire’ is good (I bow to Empress Rice’s writing at every chance I get) vastly superior to ‘Queen of the Damned’). It’s not gold, even if compared to the erotic/somehow not erotic (bookies will understand this) position of the books. But not bad.

    I agree that if someone did an even decent paranormal gay romance (vampire, werewolf, witch, other) I’d buy the first ticket if only to support someone who did it right. If you find some, please let the rest of us know! ♥

  13. Avid Reader August 21, 2016 at 10:01 pm #

    What about Vampires: Lucas Rising? It’s a movie on the on going saga started with Vampires: Brighter in Darkness

    • Raythe August 22, 2016 at 6:00 pm #

      There’s a sequel???!!! Kat and I must watch with alcohol.

      • Avid Reader August 23, 2016 at 8:44 pm #

        🙂 glad I could help. Tell me what you think of it.

  14. Kotone August 22, 2016 at 3:48 am #

    I recommend the anime Owari no Seraph. Though there’s no obvious romance, there are some subtle hints of yaoi, and blood drinking since vampires are involved. Either way it’s a good story, try to watch to at least the 4th episode before you decide if you like it or not.

  15. vessto August 22, 2016 at 9:15 am #

    Dante’s Cove – The best gay TV soap. (3 seasons) (Supernatural, magic. Hot scenes. Charlie David (Judas Kiss) in one of main roles)

    The Lair (3 seasons) (Vampires)

    • Raythe August 22, 2016 at 6:02 pm #

      I will check these out!!!

  16. vessto August 22, 2016 at 9:56 am #

    PS. Dante’s Cove has good lesbian couples too and a het one as well (which was nice made, usually I don’t like het spam in my MMs ;)). Lol, sounds if I dislike my own orientation but truth is that het relationships in movies/TV are too typical, too much made in a mold, with emphases on gender roles and overall as pushed in your face like “everyone should be het, married and with children” that makes me sick. That is the main reason I stopped watching TV series in general. I’d rather reading a good FF story although I’m het than some het cheesy book with subtext how stuff should be in this life. As if life can be put in a mold and diversity doesn’t exist and everyone should obey these rules.

    End of rant, sorry, I just remembered what backed me off from watching movies and TV series. I don’t watch gay-themed ones too, for the reason that even in the happiest one there are sad lines and notes.

  17. Ellie Vorse August 22, 2016 at 5:09 pm #

    I actually really like Vampire Boys, though I do agree with you about the sequel. It was terrible.

    • Raythe August 22, 2016 at 6:01 pm #

      I have a real fondness for VB (though I wished they’d done it seriously). The sequel is truly unwatchable.

  18. Sabrena August 23, 2016 at 11:40 pm #

    Not a movie but can I just mention Forever Knight and the short lived series based on White Wolves VtM? Concerning movies, Interview with the Vampire has so much subtext…. *curls her hands around a glass of red Sangria/wine mix*

  19. Darlene August 24, 2016 at 10:23 am #

    Please take matters into your own hands! As far as movies, there are very, very few out there and I would love to see a romantic gay vampire movie.

  20. keith August 24, 2016 at 1:16 pm #

    There is also the option of making a fanmade movie, if we made the costumes and had people who are good in acting and people who can film and people who are good with video editing… but we’re dispersed all across the globe and such a project would take money and time so it’s probably just a dream…

    • BuddhaAli August 24, 2016 at 1:28 pm #

      Yes, I think we should all go out and seduce billionaires so that our dreams of a Raythe movie can come true.

      Now, where to find those poor lonely billionaires? Keith, I’m counting on you to help!!

  21. Alexey Shiro August 24, 2016 at 3:47 pm #

    Since Those Pesky “Twilight”, the vampire image suffered terribly. Really terribly.

  22. Bambi4real August 31, 2016 at 10:42 pm #

    I think if Raythe expanded into film production of all the stories we love best and even those of other serious self produced authors, it would be great. It would also be an unexplored niche that probably would be worth millions as they say more and more women and some men are demanding more of the M/M genre and are willing to pay for the privilege.

    If you want to ensure control and quality you will have to produce it yourselves in my opinion. You could probably work with film schools to offer work experience to up and coming students to do your filming editing cutting or even acting on the cheap or for free.

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